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Fog Like Water in 20 gal

Tetras4life — Mon, 15 Mar 2010 05:34:36 GMT

I need everyone's help. Over the last two weeks I have been fighting what looks like grey fog in my 20gal freshwater tank. Here are the specifics:

0 ammonia

0 nitrates

7.0 ph

I used to use my tap water but I changed to R/O water since my tap water was way too soft. My fish in the tank are: 2 pairs of dwarf neon blue gouramies, 6 guppies, 2 crabs. The fish all seem to be loving life but the fog like apperance of the tank makes my wife go crazy! I have changed the water 2 times last week with my regular tap water and still have the fog. I currently have two tetra filters on the tank, a 20-30 gal filter and a 10-20 gal filter to ensure the water is clear.

Any suggestions?

I finally did it! Cleaned out my old 10 gallon!!!

A.M anabantoids — Sat, 13 Mar 2010 17:07:00 GMT

Well, today was a nice day outside, so I thought I'd finally clean put my old 10 gallon. I know I'm gonna make it a planted tank for sure, but I'm not sure what to put in it, what kind of setup (origin), what kind of plants, and what equipment.

Well...I can figure out what kind of equipment to use, so I'm not too focused on that this whole topic.

Now to start off, what kind of tank should I make this? I mean in origin. Here are my possible choices:

1. asian (densly planted and somewhat calm water)

2. Oriental stream (some current with some dwarf hair grass covering the bottom, along with driftwood and java fern)

3. amazon tank (very densley planted with driftwood and tea-stained water, along with a little current current)

4. Any suggestions?

What do you think I should go with? Any suggestions?

Post away!

Eclipse (sun) catfish

Bloodparrot cichlid — Mon, 15 Mar 2010 10:05:36 GMT

i bought a 1 inch eclipse catfish yesterday(3/14/10) and i am in a loss every website i went to gave me totally differant facts, growth rate, and size. since that didn't help me how big do the get iv'e read any where from 6in to 22in can i keep him solo in a 30g tank and how fast do they grow all help is appreciated.

Changing from gravel to sand

creino — Mon, 15 Mar 2010 15:22:16 GMT

I want to change out the substrate in one of my aquariums. It's been up and running for about four years. My reason for doing this is because within the past few months, I have added loaches and a pair of Geophagus. I know all of these fish like to burrow and dig through the substrate, and they supposedly like sand better. BUT, i don't want to risk killing them from stress and what not. So, what's the process of doing this, and how much of a risk is it to do it?

Shrimp in my tank?

creino — Mon, 15 Mar 2010 11:14:40 GMT

I was wondering if i could have some sort of shrimp in my tank. I have a rainbow shark, and some angelicus and striata loaches. I have heard that my fish would eat them, but i don't think they would eat shrimp that are well sized. A local pet store sells them at about 2", which i would imagine is their adult size. The rainbow shark is about 5" and all the loaches are 3" or under that. Could it work? My uncle has shrimp in with his clown loaches, and they are fine, and the clowns range from 4"-8".

Tiger Barbs and Oscar?

AquariumBrandon — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:34:51 GMT

Okay, okay. I know GENERALLY this is not the rule; however, in past aquariums, I've done a lot of things that "aren't the rule", but have worked out, so I try to keep my mind reasonably open.

In this 55 gallon I'm about to start part of what I was thinking about doing is 1 oscar (I've heard do 1 or 6+ which I can't do 6 with a large school of LARGE Tiger Barbs.

I feel like doing several of the larger size barbs in a school will possibly make the Oscar leave them alone? What do you think?

Or is this all together a bad idea? Has anyone tried anything similar?

Depressed Oscar After Tank Mate Death.

FlashThunder829 — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 10:58:09 GMT

I have had two oscars since they were 2 inches long in a 75 gallon tank. One was a red oscar and the other one was a tiger, they are both 8 years old . I always took great care of these two and they did to each other. They were like my little babies and they loved to play with each other/mate and chase me and my hand around the tank, they would even swim to the top so I could rub their sides and head. One time the tiger had a swim bladder problem, which he swelled up like he had a golf ball in his stomach and the red one would not leave his side. I ended up taking the tiger out, giving him a 1/4 inch incision with one stitch and he recovered awesome within 2 days. The red never left his side. Recently the red one became very ill due to an unknown illness - temp was fine - water tests perfect, frequent water changes - same diet since say one - and unfortunetly he died 3 days ago. The tiger would not swim 2 inches away from the red during the week leading to his death - he sat right by his side comforting him and ever tried making him swim a few times. They really had the best bond I have ever seen fish have. Since his death the tiger oscar will not even look at me - swimming directly to the bottom if anyone nears the tank. He even became aggressive towards me when I removed the red one from the tank (which neither has ever done). I feel so bad for him since this is his first time being along in the tank. He won't even eat - and the only thing I can think of is he is depressed without his mate. I really don't know what to do about - he's not the same fish since losing her. I understand all life ends but what broke my heart is the love and bond these fish had towards each other and I just know the tiger still remembers red. I don't know if I should try to introduce another female oscar or just let him be alone. I thought their story should be out here so people understand the bond fish can have towards each other.... I sort of think another oscar wouldn't be a good idea for him... I really don't know - has anyone had this happen and if so did they introduce a new mate? Thanks for reading.

Data Collection

math-only aquarium — Sat, 13 Mar 2010 20:36:01 GMT

Hello,

I am trying to simplify my stocking calculator programs a bit. The problem, however, is that I am not sure which parts of my formulas are marginal and which parts are not. This being the case, I need to collect some data to see how different sectors of the aquarium system affect overall waste production. To this end I have created a data collection spreadsheet for users to fill out. Once the data is entered, the spreadsheet can be sent to me via email.

Link to spreadsheet: http://sites.google.com/site/moashowmanyfish/comments-suggestions-and-questions

Any and all cooperation is appreciated!!!

MOA

best beginner fish

Faraday — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 13:20:27 GMT

What do you think?

Flowerhorn Breeding

mycar454 — Mon, 15 Mar 2010 06:28:06 GMT

Thinking of breeding some flowerhorns. How can you tell the male from the female when they are very young 2in.

Thanks

Mike

Are They Fin Nippers

JW — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 10:55:19 GMT

I was thinking of maybe keeping some Harlequin Rasbora with my Betta.So I was wondering are they fin nippers, all my books say they're peaceful fish and my one book even says that Libyrinthfish would be good tankmates for them.I just wanted to get a second opinion on this.

Prolific Female Platy

walkswithwolves — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 20:46:24 GMT

Holy moly rocky! My female Platy is at it again!! I noticed at dinner time that there are 2 new fry in my tank!!! This will be her 3rd batch since we purchased her in December!!! There is now a whole school of these guys in my 10g. We started with 4 Platy, lost the first female momma (sad), but this female just keeps popping them out!! There is (roughly) 25 fry in this tank ranging from newly born to 1/2" in size. The majority of them are still less than 1/4".

BTW ~ the wonderful male went back to the LFS in trade for a new fake plant for the itty bitty tank I've set up for the three guppies.

That's all, just wanted to shout it out!

Fake Plants from HOBBY LOBBY?

AquariumBrandon — Sun, 14 Mar 2010 11:09:08 GMT

In working on setting up my 55 gallon aquarium as you know decorations are very expensive.

Does anyone have any recommendations of where to get inexpensive decorations?

Also I was considering looking at Hobby Lobby for some plants and things that might look good in my aquarium? Is this okay, or is there anything on them that maybe unsafe for my fish?

Fish Identification What fish is this?

AquariumBrandon — Sat, 13 Mar 2010 10:01:28 GMT

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2014/2536466347_a7c3e25a62.jpg

Can someone tell me what kind of fish this is?

I hear it is suitable with African cichlids...but I don't know what it is.

"Painted" glass tetras ...

Cichlasoma_hollywoodi — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 01:53:08 GMT

We've all seen "painted" glassfish (Chanda lala, formerly Ambassis lala); some of you may have bought them. I never would buy one, but I still am curious how the color is infused into the fish's body. Does anyone know how that's done? I'm talking about that day-glo fluorescent pigment. That stuff can't be good for them, right?

Do you think it's OK to artificially color a fish's skin? How about those "tattoo parrot" cichlids? Some even have a happy face or a heart drawn on them. Is it painful for the fish? I have tattoos and they hurt, but that was my choice. Nobody asked the fish if they wanted one ...

1 inch of fish per gal.? NOT TRUE!!?

AquariumBrandon — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 14:32:02 GMT

So as many of us have heard the "basic rule of thumb" is one inch of fish per gal. to prevent overcrowding of your aquarium.

I've read a few articles online (I'm not sure how credible they are) but they say due to new technology and todays filtration systems etc, you can actually go higher than that. But as far as how much higher it didn't say.

Does anyone have any thoughts on this or have heard of this?

I have a 55 gallon I'm starting and I would like to maximize life in my aquarium, but at the same time don't want to overcrowd it.

Thanks,
Brandon

Red Hump Earth Eaters

creino — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 12:55:22 GMT

I'm getting a new 60 gallon tank soon, and i want to put some of them in there. Could you just give me some info on them. and let me know what you think of them if youve kept them. And also, how big do they get? ive seen various answers

Question

Jeny — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 15:04:17 GMT

Do they mix I have had a problem with these guys together Ive heard somewhere that they loaches may attack or eat these guys Is this true? b c in my case i think it may be : ( or is it the goldies? I have three goldfish in the mix

babies

nivek75 — Sat, 13 Mar 2010 13:58:19 GMT

well it looks like i bought a preganent fish. i recently got a few new african ciclids and the red zebra had babies looks like maybe 10 to 12 they seem to be every where. will try and post some pics soon

Firemouth Cichilds?

creino — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:22:56 GMT

How aggressive are Firemouth Cichlids? I know in general, they are classified as semi-aggressive, but what has your experience with them been like? Are they just territorial, or are they just aggressive towards other fish on a regular basis? And, could they possibly go with gouramis? i don't know anything about them, so i was just wondering, and looking for a little more information.

Oscar passed away last night

Findingjohn — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 10:46:27 GMT

For those who knew Oscar he was a fun fish to have around. Sadly he passed away last night. He is in a better place now.

I loved you little buddy. Your Dad.

Just a quick questions about brine shrimp eggs.Please help.

A.M anabantoids — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:53:21 GMT

My dad is going on a business trip (aquaculture) to india. That's where a lot of my relatives live. My cousin lives there and he's a cichlid breeder. Right now, he has albino an tiger oscars, pink convicts with fry, black convicts with fry, corydoras that just spawned, 2 plecos, melon barbs, and 3 red swamp cray fish. He used to have snakeheads!...and a lot of other neat fish that he bred. Anyways, he sent me an e-mail and asked if I could send some O.S.I brine shrimp eggs with my dad. He said he knows discus breeders that use it and they said it's really good. I persoanlly don't think this is that big of a problem at all, but last time, when my dad tried to bring some brine shrimp eggs from where he works (I don't feel safe give that info.), the security at the airport wouldn't let him even though it had a label on it. They thought it was some kind of powder. The brine shrimp eggs I have also have a label, and are vacuume packed. You can see them too. Do you think it will be a problem? I don't, but I'm just wondering.

Oh, and I think in may, my dad and cousin are actually opening a sea-food and aquarium shop in India. The store is actually in 2 section, and of course, my cousin is going to be in charge of the aquariums.

what are some unique foods I can give my fish?

A.M anabantoids — Fri, 12 Mar 2010 17:37:05 GMT

I'm starting to get kinda tired of feeding my fish the same 3 things every day. I have 3 white clouds (about to get 3 more), and a female gold gourami. I feed them tetra algae flakes, Hikari freeze dried bloodworms, and freeze dried and live brine shrimp. I want to spice the diet of my aquarium up a little. What are some more unique options for fish food? I've heard tiny gut-loaded crickets are good protien for anabantoids. Would you reccomend using those...very occasionaly of course. Also, what about white worms? What are some unique ideas you can think of? I know there isn't as much of a choice for white clouds, but if you have any ideas, please post post them.

Anyone here ever keep rummynose tetras?

LilMissBetta — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 08:34:43 GMT

I saw a video on YouTube of these rummynose tetras schooling, and it was amazing!! I only have a 15-gallon tank, though, and I was wondering if this would be enough space for them (for maybe 6 or 7). Would they even school with only 6 or 7?

Plus, do they only occupy the top of the tank? I sort of would like a school of fish that swim all over. (I'd like a species tank and can't decide what I want! Of course, I am leaning toward a tank of female bettas instead.)

Do you consider your fish as a main pet?

A.M anabantoids — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 18:17:46 GMT

I've kept my female gold gourami for 6 months now, and she is healthy and robust. When I first got her, she was an underdog, and she was very skittish. Right now, I can finger feed her! I can also pet her too! She's really become just like a cat or a dog to me! Whenever I walk in front of my tank, she swims right up to the glass, and follows my finger. She can actually recognize my (well...at least a person's face) from something like a camera. It's really cool having a gourami like that. I think the most amazing part is that she doesn't mind me gently petting herwith my fingers. before or after feeding, she'll just swim to the surface, and I'll gently pet her, and she doesn't mind it! I know she isn't coming up for more food, because when I did try to feed her more, she only took about 2-3 tiny bites.

Do any of you have a fish that has become your main pet like most people have cats or dogs? Do they actually enjoy you being around?

How to swap out tanks?

EmberMarie — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 16:51:59 GMT

OK. So I am trading my smaller 20 gallon tank with someone for a larger tank. What is the best way to do this?

While I drain the water out of the tank that I currently have, I was going to stick all of my fish in my smaller 10 gallon quarantine tank, and leave them in there at least until I'm done aquascaping.

Should I have to do the nitrogen cycle? I would really like to, but I have to many fish to just keep them in the ten gallon for a couple of weeks, or at least I think I do. I was going to take all of the old tank water to put in the new one. Since the tank I am getting has already had fish in it, should I have to worry about the nitrogen cycle. If I do, How do you think I should do this? Could I just go ahead and dump the fish in?

farowella/twig catfish

matt is awesome — Thu, 04 Mar 2010 05:30:48 GMT

i have been intereested in getting a farowella for my 55 gallon planted tank for awhile now but i can't seem to find much information on them. can anybody help me out? the tank already has 12 rummynose tetras and about five bronze cories in it.

Cycling Small "Nano" Tank-Questions

walkswithwolves — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 20:46:21 GMT

I've decided to cycle another smaller tank seeing as I am having a population explosion of Platys. I've read the pinned topics and keep re-reading to get this right.

Readings

PH NO2 NH3/NH4

3/6/10 7.5 .3 3.0 mg/l

3/9/10 7.5 .3 .25-1.5mg/l

Just received small nano filter yesterday and hooked it up. Prior to that I used some of the substrate from my extablished tank, put a few of the Platy fry (dead) bodies in it to decompose and have added some flake food to rot.

>Looking at the numbers from 3/6 to 3/9, am I on the right track?

>I have to wait until the amonia levels go down to zero correct?

>We plan on putting the 3 (male) guppies in the small take for the time being will that be okay? The tank is less than a 3g.

Okay, next question. My female Platy looks to be gravid (again). I now have way too many of the fry (20+) and I'm just waiting for them to get bigger so I can take them to my LFS.

>Do you think I should return the male Platy to the LFS?

>Or ~ will the female just continue to pop the fry out after he's gone?

Muchos gracias for any advice.

Sticky notes on fish tanks?

F1sHb0y — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 14:07:15 GMT

Can I put sticky notes on my fish tanks?
I know this is a weird question, buuuuttt I want to know if they'd leave a residual film on the tank that might look bad.
The reason I want to do this is because I forget to post on here, and sometimes even medicate(call me a freak if you will)

Started over

ScarletDreams489 — Thu, 11 Mar 2010 15:58:25 GMT

I posted here a couple weeks ago about changing up my fishtank. I ended up bringing back both paradise fish, all the tetras and one of the flying foxes (I spent the better part of an hour trying to catch both and ended up only catching one so I kept the other). The paradise fish ended up eating all of my cory cats before I could bring them back to the fish store. So here is what I ended up with:

Bristle nose pleco
Flying fox
2 kuhli loaches
Ornate tiger sand loach (http://www.loaches.com/species-index/schistura-kohchangensis for those wondering)
2 german rams (new to the tank)
2 kribensis (new to the tank)

My plan is to stick with the more peaceful dwarf cichlids. My question is if I could go with a school of cory cats and be okay. I have also read about dither fish with these species. What exactly is a dither fish and how does it work? I do have the soft slightly acid water that the dwarf cichlids require so I know whatever else I put into the tank would also have to tolerate that. Any imput would be appreciated

White "Worms"

F1sHb0y — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:52:13 GMT

I've got these weird, tiny white worms in my tank, water parameters are all good, not too CROWDED, but you guys would think it's waaaay overstocked and would probably rip me open if I told you what fish I have in it
I believe these worms are Hydra?
The biggest I've seen so far is about, oh, IDK, maybe 1/4 of an Inch.
There is literally trillions of them sitting in this tank!
I stirred up the gravel and siphoned out as many as I could, probably a couple hundred thousand or so. I am not exaggerating at all, I wish I could get a good pic of them, but they are SO TINY!!!!
All help is appreciated!

Responsible Fishkeeping Initiative (RFI)

David Lass — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 11:38:22 GMT

For the past six months or so I have been working, with the support of BowTie (FishChannel.com, Aquarium Fish International, Freshwater and Marine Aquarium, and Pet Product News International), Blue Zoo Radio, and some other industry folks (NexPet, SERA, and Hi-Q), at creating the Responsible Fishkeeping Initiative (RFI) . We in the hobby and the industry have to acknowledge that there are some fish that are really not appropriate for all but a very few dedicated hobbyists.

The RFI is very simple -- red tail cats, pacu piranhas and iridescent sharks (the "Big Three") all get much too large for any ordinary hobbyist to take care of, and they make up 90% of the fish that stores and public aquariums have offered to them as "donations". When the hobbyist with the 2' long red tail cat finds that the local fish store and nearest public aquarium don't want the fish, they often just release the fish into local waters. Not only is this illegal -- and stupid -- but it is only a matter of time before some politican's mother goes to wade in her favorite local lake, and she finds a huge alien-looking fish, dead, washed up on the shore. She calls her son, and her son initiates a bill to make it illegal to keep any fish that is not native to that state. HR6311 is in the Federal legislative process, and if passed this bill would essentially put the aquarium hobby and industry out of business. California already has a law that bans a fair number of aquarium fish. And I bet you didn't know that it is illegal to sell neon tetras in Massaschusetts? Yep. The law says that it is illegal to keep, buy or sell "piranhas and their relatives", and both piranhas and neon tetras are in the same family, Characidae, which makes neons, technically, illegal.

Stores can join the RFI by taking "the pledge" that they will 1) not sell those three fish, and 2) that if a hobbyist has a fish that they can no longer keep, they can bring it into the store, and that the store will try to rehome the fish, and if that is not possible, they will humanely euthanize the fish and dispose of it.

Those of you who are successfully keeping any of the "Big Three" fishes, or any other huge fish in a sufficiently large volume of water -- my hat is off to you. I hope that everyone will support the RFI -- to learn more about it, and to sign up all you have to do is to go to:
www.fishchannel.com/rfi
We have RFI posters for local fish stores, and bumper stickers for hobbyists.
Thanks.
David Lass

Which filter system to use?

lonewolf — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 10:54:46 GMT

I've read numerous books and looked at several online articles about the filter systems, but none of them tell me what information I'm looking for.

I'm about to start up a large aquarium (70g to 150g) and am not really sure which type of filter I should use. I did a test run with a smaller aquarium (15g) and had an outside power filter that hung on the back. The filter was very noisy and seemed to create a waterfall effect for the surface water. The poor fish could only swim in the section in the tank that was away from the filter's spillout.

Here's what I'm looking for:
1. A filter system that doesn't knock my fish around. No waterfall effects please.
2. A quieter system. Now, I know aquariums make noise, that's part of their appeal, but this filter I had on my small tank was terrible!
3. A system that is the most maintence free compared to the rest.

Now, I also realize it depends on the manufacturer and whether the materials that make the system are junk or high quality. But I'm sure there are differences in each system and that's what I'm looking for in regards to the above list.

The types of filter systems I'm looking at are Undergravel, Canister, and Trickle. Based on my experience with my smaller aquarium, I'm not really all that interested in a power filter. There was way too much current with it.

I had greatly considered an undergravel system but heard you have to vacuum the substrate quite a bit with them. I'm now considering the canister system, but am a little worried about the currents it could possibly produce. Anyways, expert advice would be greatly appreciated.

white spots

Uba — Tue, 09 Mar 2010 20:56:29 GMT

alright, I have a 30 gal planted corner tank with 3 blood parrots and some olive nerite snails and an albino pleco. lately I have seen little white spots all over the glass. It's not on the fish and they don't move. I couldn't get them off with a magnet algae cleaner, but they came off fairly easy with my thumbnail....any idea what they could be??

First Fish

kenzie263 — Mon, 08 Mar 2010 13:36:20 GMT

Yesterday I set up a 10 gallon fish tank for my gramma (freshwater). It has a filter, heater, gravel, plastic plants, everything needed. So I was thinking this coming up weekend we could go get her first fish. When we were buying the tank she fell in LOVE with the Dalmatian Molly's. Is this a good first fish to get the tank cycled? Do they really need salt in the tank, or can they live with out it? What fish do you recommend to get the tank started? Thanks!

Is this normal behavior?

A.M anabantoids — Wed, 10 Mar 2010 15:09:26 GMT

I recently got 6 white clouds (2 died from stres that the petstore put on them, and one jumped out), but now I only have 3. When I first acclimated the new arrivals to my aquarium, the only time my gold gourami was curious about them was when she saw them in the bag, and then she just hardly bumped the bag. After acclimating them, I put them in the tank, and what was somewhat surprising, was that my gold gourami didn't doa thing to them! I even watched them for a good hour! Not only has my gourami not done anything, but ever since I got my white clouds, my gourami is always hanging around them! Again, showing no signs of aggression! They all like being on that one side of the tank! Is this normal? Has anyone else here experienced this in their aquarium?

Should I trade up in tank size?

EmberMarie — Sun, 07 Mar 2010 16:41:10 GMT

I inherited a little 20 gallon tank, with a few tetras and this weird cat fish thing. I've kept it for a while, and added some tetras, 2 guppies and a bunch of live plants. Every thing's been going brilliantly.

I have an adult friend (I'm a freshman in high school) who has a 50 gallon tank. She has kids and has been pretty busy. She wants to trade down on tank size, and she was wondering if I wanted to swap tanks.

I'm wondering if this is a good idea.

I'm rather concerned about whether or not with the tank I will get some nasty creepy crawlies. She is not as OCD about PH or nitrites as I am. She says she can't remember the last time she did a water change. She also has overcrowded the tank in the past, and she never set up a quarantine tank. Should I be concerned about parasites?

Also, I have a Penguin filter. She has a tetra. I don't know a lot about tetra filters, but I've heard that penguins are better. Is a tetra filter a good enough one, or would I have to get a new one?

I've got my little tank set up really good. All the plants and fish are growing and happy. I'm kinda wondering if swapping tanks would be like jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire.

Quinine Sulfate for "Ick"

Black Ghost Lover — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 10:20:53 GMT

Regarding quinine sulfate as a treatment for "Ick", I have read that it is safe for freshwater fishes, including so called "scaleless" fishes as Clown Loaches and certain catfishes and also safe for very small and sensitive fishes such as certain tetras and not so small fishes such as certain catfishes and possibly Black Ghost Knife Fishes and other knife fishes. While none of my tanks have experienced "Super Ick" (and I hope they never do), it should be important for all hobbyists to be aware of a safe cure. Does anyone know of any commercially available products that contain quinine sulfate (and no other medications mixed in with it)? Does anyone know of an "Ick" treatment that contains quinine sulfate in a mixture of other medications that is safe for clown loaches and small tetras? If not, how does one obtain quinine sulfate?

Pregnant Fish

Fish Nerds — Sun, 07 Mar 2010 17:16:55 GMT

will my new arrivals be safe for the trip home?

A.M anabantoids — Fri, 05 Mar 2010 13:15:04 GMT

Tonight I might be getting cherry barbs depending on this. It's going to be about 55-60 degrees outside tonight. The drive back home from the pet store is 15 minutes. If I got fish tonight (I'll try to get them as early as possible today), will they still be safe by the time I get home?