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I'm glad. I know it can be a huge hassle, because it is such a deeply ingrained image in people to keep a goldfish in a bowl. But policies like the one you mentioned are a very good way to start changing attitudes.
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Calico Lionhead - Little Bean
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Black Moor - Damian
Calico Ryukin - Serafina
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10 gallon planted
minnow, betta, guppy
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David Lass (1/24/2008)
The other day I was in a good lfs, and the owner was in a heated argument with a customer. The store's policy is that they do not sell "feeder" goldfish for anything other than feeding to other fish, and therefore they only price them by the dozen. The customer wanted one for a bowl, and the store owner said that they wouldn't do well in a bowl, that they were produced and sold as live food for fish. The customer even went so far as to say "OK -- give me a dozen, but I want to give you back ten of them before you bag them up". There are, in fact, many lfs's out there who try to do the right thing -- and it is very difficult some of the time. I always have wondered why people: (a)Fail to care when an experienced fishkeeper says that won't work and/or it is cruel and (b)Are so obsessed with putting them in bowls. Bowls may be pretty, but they are not cruelty free.
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5-Gallon - 1 Male Super Delta Betta- William
2-Gallon -Guppy, 1 peppered cory in quratine
2 Gallon- 1 Female Crowntail Betta-Violet
1-Gallon- Guppy
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| Not to go on another one of my rants -- but -- One of the things that drives me absolute NUTS is when a customer asks a person at their lfs, who presumably knows what they are talking about, a question. "Can I put this nice little arowana in a five gallon tank?" The lfs guy says "no -- it needs a much larger tank". The customer goes away -- only to go to another lfs, where hopefully they get the answer they want. It's like the customer is shopping around until he/she hears what they want. I don't know how the lfs folks stand it.
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| honestly I dont think any goldfish is a good fish for a begginer. they are messy and they get bigger then what a typical begginers tank size is going to handle. I think goldfish are alot of the reason alot of begginers quite the hobby. They go and buy a tank set it up put a goldfish in their and then the tank is always dirty and they are constanly cleaning it. Finally they get sick of it and sell their tank for 15 dollars in the paper.
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| Actually, I think goldfish are great starter fish for beginners! Especially fancier variaties. This is because they will not grow too big, and by the time they are big enough, the fishkeeper will most likely be ready to upgrade to a larger fishtank. I started with a goldfish in a 10 gallon tank and I must say, it has been a complete joy having it! She now resides in her 29 gallon tank and is growing well. Also, if you are dedicated to keeping fish and know their needs, goldfish can be no messier than other fish. Just get a slightly higher powered filter than you need, and do weekly water changes. Simple as that.
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| Not to change the subject to much but how do you all fell about betta's in bowls. I know they don't get large but whats your ground on that? I know that they live in creeks in asia but, still I think they'd like a tank even a 1.5 gallon some times. The peole I have seen have'em in small bowls.
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I think bettas are just fine in bowls, in fact, some of the happiest ones I've seen have been in planted 2 gallon bowls. The bowls just need to big enough, 1 gallon bare minimum, and there needs to be proper attention to maintenance. I have one betta in a planted 2.5 gallon tank, and he's been there for 1.5 years now, happy as can be chasing his snail buddies around.
THe other thing about bettas, and I was guilty of thinking this once, is that they aren't from puddles and creeks in Asia. It's a common misconception. They come from rice paddies which, though shallow, are huge. They really do do better with more water.
20 gallon long
Lionhead - Kiko
Calico Lionhead - Little Bean
29 gallon
Fantail - Oliver
Black Moor - Damian
Calico Ryukin - Serafina
2.5 gallon
male betta - Pirate
10 gallon planted
minnow, betta, guppy
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I feel that bettas need two gallons, dosen't matter if it is a bowl or a mini tank. My Grandpa grew rice in his younger years and still owns his farm, A rice field may be only a few inches deep, but it is very long. So I question the 'fact' "Bettas come from tiny puddles/rice fields in asia" The owner of my LFS thinks bettas don't need tons of room. She finds 1/2 gallon fine. I disagree. They will be active if you give them room to turn around.
"Fish are friends, not food"
30-Gallon-planted, 12 Neon Tetras, 2 Aggressive Guppys, 2 Pearl Gouramis~Gucci and Prada, 2 peppered Corrys, 3 Celebs Rainbowfish
5-Gallon - 1 Male Super Delta Betta- William
2-Gallon -Guppy, 1 peppered cory in quratine
2 Gallon- 1 Female Crowntail Betta-Violet
1-Gallon- Guppy
Other pets: Two Robo Dwarf Hamsters-Fred, George! Two FAT, Old Cats-Shadow, Stewart
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