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BTW "reef ready" tanks come pre drilled....
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Here's my filter options:
2 Aquaclear 70's - $72 - 200gph filtering capacity
1 Ehiem 2217 - $149.99 - 264 gph filtering capacity
1 Rena XP3 - $119.99 - claims 350 gph flow rate, not sure filtering capacity
Sump - <$50 supplies, excluding drilling glass. As much filtering as I can fit under tank.
I would love to try the sump, but am hesitant to drill the tank. I could buy 3 Aquaclear 70's for the price of the Ehiem or comparable canister filter.
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20L - 1 male betta, Poseidon
1 Banjo Catfish
10 Ghost Shrimp
125g - 1 Dragon Goby
1 Spotted Pictus
1 male, 1 female Bristlenose Pleco
2 Angelfish
12-13 Bleeding Heart Tetra's
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There is also a 125 gallon at nearly the same price where I intend to get the 110. The 125 would be a tighter fit where I want it, but it would still fit. I suppose I could go with either one, although I like the look of the taller tank a littler better. It's up at a level where you don't have to crouch to see into the tank, which I like. But I could do either tank.
Also, the dragon goby, pictus, and eel get along fine. Sometimes I'll catch all 3 hiding together under the same rock!
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20L - 1 male betta, Poseidon
1 Banjo Catfish
10 Ghost Shrimp
125g - 1 Dragon Goby
1 Spotted Pictus
1 male, 1 female Bristlenose Pleco
2 Angelfish
12-13 Bleeding Heart Tetra's
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Conner (2/7/2008) 2 Aquaclear 70's - $72 - 200gph filtering capacity
100gph is the "full flow control" setting (fully-restricted flow) for Aquaclear 70's; the maximum setting is 300gph per filter, so two of them would get you 600 gph. That's probably running empty though (no media to slow output).
Gph is only part of the equation, and as you might guess from my 500 gph/125 gallons, not something I worry about too much. I think a pair of Aquaclear 70's would work fine if you increase the amount of bio-media each contains.
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As big a fan as I am of the Eheims, I personally am also a fan of having more than one filter on a 6' tank. You just can't get flow to all parts of the tank effectively with just a single filter. That said, I am also a big fan of sumps.
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Well its been decided. I found a guy on Craigslist with a 125 gallon for (relatively) cheap. It comes with 2 HOB's, a Rena XP-3, and a DIY sump. I'm checking it out this weekend, and if it looks good I'll be bringing it home at the end of the month!
He said the HOB's were Emperor 350's, so I'm not sure if he meant Penguin 350's or Emperor 400's..... I'll have to find out.
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20L - 1 male betta, Poseidon
1 Banjo Catfish
10 Ghost Shrimp
125g - 1 Dragon Goby
1 Spotted Pictus
1 male, 1 female Bristlenose Pleco
2 Angelfish
12-13 Bleeding Heart Tetra's
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| Conner, sorry I didn't get back to you sooner. Did you ask the store if they sell reef ready or drilled tanks? what was the cost difrence? Did you get the used tank??? Pics please if you did I would like to see what ya got. Drilling glass is alot scareir sounding then it acualy is. Keep it lubrcated with water and drill slow and constant. Do not apply presure, let the drill do the work and don't twist or wobble the bit. YOU CAN'T DRILL TEMPERED GLASS but normal glass is just fine, checking with the manufacturer will give you the info on that. Most large tanks use thicker glass and tempering cost more so they tend not to use it. Small tanks on the other hand they use tempered bottoms often as they can use thinner glass and save money as well as reduce the risk of someone getting hurt moving the tanks around. Large tanks don't get moved often so again another cost efective reason not to use tempered glass.
WARNING: Everything posted by this user above are the ramblings of Mr. Cracker and should be viewed as nothing more then his rambling. DO NOT CONFUSE IT WITH ANYTHING ELSE! WARNING # 2: All DIY information provided by this user must be considered carefully before you the reader attempts to do the same. If you do not have a basic understanding of hand tools, power tools, carpentry, plumbing, electrical or general DIY (Do It Yourself) technics seek the assistance of a competent and qualified person that does before proceeding.
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Hey. I didn't get a chance to ask about getting it reef-ready. Checking at one of my other local LFS's, I found a 120 gallon reef ready aquarium that would have cost about $200 more than the quoted price of the other tank, which only included the tank and a light, no cabinet, filters, or anything. Plus, my brother would have been buying the other tank at a 20% discount, so I couldn't have found a comparable price except with a used tank.
I haven't gotten the used tank yet, its current owner is still finding some homes for fish, but I am getting it by the end of the month. Its got 2 HOB's and a canister, so I may not need the sump, depending on how much trouble it is (i don't think its drilled, I think its a HOB DIY version). On the other hand, I'm getting a 29gallon sump tank already set up, so why not?
Also, I have read a couple of articles that say tempered glass CAN be drilled. I've also seen tanks for sale that say they are tempered glass, but have had holes drilled in them to make them reef ready. Is it possible, just much much more difficult to drill tempered glass, or are these just miss-statements?
I will have to check with the guy I'm buying from to see if its tempered, and if he doesn't know, I guess I'll be calling the manufacturer!
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20L - 1 male betta, Poseidon
1 Banjo Catfish
10 Ghost Shrimp
125g - 1 Dragon Goby
1 Spotted Pictus
1 male, 1 female Bristlenose Pleco
2 Angelfish
12-13 Bleeding Heart Tetra's
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