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Posted 4/15/2008 10:10:13 AM


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I just wondered if the two goldfish will live in that small of a pond withought a filter. Yes or no. Can I fit more than just those two goldfish in the pond? Thanks

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Posted 4/15/2008 10:46:27 AM


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Definitely not.

You have feeders, which require quite a lot of water to grow properly. You need around 100gallons minimum for two of those "feeders" to grow properly. If you had 2 fancies, it would have been okay.

You definitely shouldn't keep them in there with no filtration of any kind unless you have a crazy amount of plants. Goldfish produce a fantastic amount of waste.

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Posted 4/15/2008 11:34:08 AM
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I totally agree. First I would get a filter of some sort (goldfish really are messy fish and should have powerful filtration), and then I would exchange those two feeder goldfish for two fancy goldfish, which will stay much smaller (8 inches as opposed to up to 24 inches) and could live out their lives in the pond. That would be a full bioload for that tiny pond, so if you want more fish you should be looking at small fish like minnows and mosquito fish instead of goldfish.

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Posted 4/23/2008 1:35:39 PM


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I asked the tetra people about how big feeders grow and they said 8-10 inches?


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Posted 4/23/2008 1:42:14 PM
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I wouldn't trust their answers, given their shoddy products. I get my fish profiles from two generally very reliable sources, fishbase, and mongabay (when the two don't quite agree, I trust fishbase most. They are a very accurate scientific resource, and they list the common goldfish as 59 centimeters or just over 23 inches). Here are the links.
http://www.fishbase.org/Summary/speciesSummary.php?ID=271&genusname=Carassius&speciesname=auratus+auratus
http://fish.mongabay.com/species/Carassius_auratus.html

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Posted 4/23/2008 1:52:05 PM
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This is kind of interesting. Just to give you an idea how big goldfish get, here's a photo of a fancy goldfish, which is a lot smaller than a common goldfish (the kind they use for feeders).



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Posted 4/24/2008 1:59:11 PM


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That is the biggest oranda I have ever seen!! Cool pic, Hailey.

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Posted 4/24/2008 5:32:50 PM


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Love pics of Bruce. Last I heard he was 14 inches long, roughly the size and weight of a small cat, and living in a huge pond with about 15-20 other 10-14 inch orandas. They REALLY do get huge.

20 gallon long
Lionhead - Kiko
Calico Lionhead - Little Bean
29 gallon
Fantail - Oliver
Black Moor - Damian
Calico Ryukin - Serafina
2.5 gallon
male betta - Pirate
10 gallon planted
minnow, betta, guppy
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Posted 4/24/2008 6:52:14 PM


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Would an orando be fine for my pond?

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