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Posted 7/27/2010 8:03:08 PM
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Need Help!!!
The last two times that I have cleaned my tank it has resulted in fish death! the first time was about a week ago and I lost a Royal Gramma and my Blue Tang both of which I have owned for four years! Now i had to clean again and I lost my Firefish!! Anyone know what could cause this? All the fish were perfectly healthy up to the cleaning.
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Posted 7/28/2010 9:24:11 AM


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How are you cleaning the tank? Are you stirring up the gravel removing most of the beneficial bacteria and causing a major ammonia spike? Do you have cleaning equipment just for the tank? Is some one using it for other things? Please tell us how you are cleaning the tank.

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Posted 7/28/2010 3:54:20 PM
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Well I have stuff that I use just for cleaning the tank. I clean off the rocks because I have a MAJOR algae problem right now (including cyanobacteria) so if possible I have been taking the rocks out of the tank and cleaning them in a CLEAN bucket filled with old water for a water change. And I don't really mess with the gravel that muck but I do stir it up a little to keep it from getting covered with algae. I did this last night and I lost my Dartfish so yah something is up... i've had this tank setup for four years and never had problems like this. So if anyone can help me with this mystery I would appreciate it. Also I'm not sure why suddenly I have algae problems because my phosphates are 0ppm ammonia and my nitrates are around 8ppm. I also have strong current in my tank and plenty of oxygenation. I'm thinking that it must be my old bulbs.... since they have been in there for almost two years... I would appreciate some advice thanks
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What are the water test numbers? It sounds like you have had a super spike of toxins. Test your water. Why are you having an algae bloom? What color is the algae? Is it red slim algae? You may have to add a phosphate remover. When was the last time you replaced your bulbs?If you did did you use the same bulbs or are you trying a new type or a new spectrum to cause this bloom? I think we have to find out what is causing the algae bloom. Or maybe you are causing to much stress on the fish as you remove and replace the rock. That last comment is just a thought. http://www.fishchannel.com/saltwater-aquariums/aquarium-frontiers/what-is-phosphate.aspx
I found this article you may find interesting. This might be the reason for the algae bloom.


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Posted 7/25/2011 1:37:33 PM
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Have you added anything new, like rock or corals, to your tank recently? They could have brought hitchhikers along if you have. Have you maybe moved your tank to a different location in your home? Is there anyway that you can isolate your fish in another tank? This might be more of a hassle than you want but maybe you could consider a large water change and recycle your tank for a bit as well as re-curing your rock to eliminate any toxic buildup while encouraging the good bacteria to stage a comeback. Do you have any "cleaner" species in your tank? You could try a watchman goby to help turn your gravel over and prevent algae re-growth and I'm not positive but I think that emerald crabs or maybe a sea urchin will eat destructive algae. If your bulbs are two years old, I would definitely replace them and you could also perhaps only run your blue light for awhile to see if that stunts the algae at all. When you do another water change or cleaning, make sure you knock all the air bubbles off your rocks etc. You could also try adding some beneficial algae to your tank to help purify your water.

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I think you are doing more harm than good by taking rock out of tank to clean it. Ammonia is toxic to fish. Any level of ammonia is bad What is nitrite level? Nitrate level of 8 is not going to hurt anything. What kind of water do you use for makeup? I have found in my reef tank that a show of cyanobacteria is my indication my bulbs are beginning to change spectrum. Tank has been set up for 12 years. If you run 2 types of light actinic and 10,000k or something replace actinic then just run them for a couple weeks corals will be ok allow tank to recycle then replace other lights and only run them for short periods of time until you are back up to your normal lighting regime. Until then do small water changes pull algae out by hand/siphon from tank. You may not see them but in your rocks t here is probably a lot of sponges and every time you take rock out of tank you are killing them, which gives you an ammonia spike. Good luck. Take your time.
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