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Posted 10/26/2011 10:07:32 AM
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I am new to this forum and enjoy reading and learning from here. I have a "problem" and that is I want another 75 gallon tank in my living room. I already have a 75 low-tec planted community tank.What I have in mind is ,the second tank would be right across the room,on walls, facing each other.The walls are only 11 feet apart.The currant tank and future 75 sit across the floor joists.They would likely be on the same joists at each end. is this to much? I have read about tanks scattered about the house,but not tanks near each other.The tank I have now is on the outside wall,and my next tank would be on a support wall. Please help,for I have MTS! LOL1 THANK YOU!
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Nah, MTS is 5 or more tanks. The tank on your outside wall should be fine. The one on the interior wall may be a problem depending on how far from the load bearing beam in the basement you are. If you are within 1-2 ft, i would say you'll be fine.

I have a 28 gal, 35 gal with 35 gal sump, 2 stacked 35 gals, a 45 gal and a 55 gallon running along the outer walls of my apt and have not heard any joists creaking under the load.


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Posted 10/26/2011 3:03:43 PM


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Someone had a substantial amount of information regarding this subject about a year ago.  It was the best I've seen.  Does anyone recall?  SGN
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Thank You for the reply! I did not mention the 1 gallon with plants and a betta.I did some research on line and did find the in-depth article about tanks and floor and all I get out of it is a 75 gallon is fine for most floors, and a tank that is 125 gallons or more, be careful. But that is just one tank. I want 2- 75 gallons opposite each other, a little less then 11 feet apart .I know there are people out there with many tanks within the same room, I have yet to hear of a floor collapsing, Maybe the floor has a bow to it. Oh! the poor betta in a 1 gallon,I am planning to get a 10 gallon. My husband thinks I am crazy,but this bug in my brain wants more tanks!
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Posted 10/26/2011 4:22:38 PM


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Lyn (10/26/2011)
Thank You for the reply! I did not mention the 1 gallon with plants and a betta.I did some research on line and did find the in-depth article about tanks and floor and all I get out of it is a 75 gallon is fine for most floors, and a tank that is 125 gallons or more, be careful. But that is just one tank. I want 2- 75 gallons opposite each other, a little less then 11 feet apart .I know there are people out there with many tanks within the same room, I have yet to hear of a floor collapsing, Maybe the floor has a bow to it. Oh! the poor betta in a 1 gallon,I am planning to get a 10 gallon. My husband thinks I am crazy,but this bug in my brain wants more tanks!


It depends entirely on where the floor is supported underneath - not the fact that they are in the same room. All of the exterior walls (the ones where the other side is outside) are also supporting your floors. So any tanks along those walls are fine - at least until you get into some really ridiculous sizes. If one or both of your tanks is along a wall like that, you don't need to worry. The interior walls (the ones that separate a bedroom from a hallway, for example) are NOT load-bearing walls. That means having a tank next to those walls doesn't give you any extra support.

I'm assuming that since these two walls are only 11 feet apart, that at least one wall is an interior wall. So what you'll have to do is go to the floor below and see how close is the nearest load-bearing structure. If it's a basement, it's usually a pillar or something. You'll want to position the tank as close to one of those as you can get. If the floor is only supported by beams in that area, you want to cross as many of them as you can. Try not to position the tank length-wise along one beam.

If you still need more info, I can have my husband look at this when he gets home. He's an engineer and can probably come up with a much better explanation than I feel like I am giving.

And to Stephen, the post you're thinking of was written by Cooltow1, if I remember correctly, but I have to run and can't search for it just now. Will be back soon!


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The wall I want to put a tank on ,I believe is a supporting wall.There is a beam running under that wall, running from one side to the other side of the house The front and back are load bearing walls.
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I am having a similar issue. Does anyone know if putting a single 75g tank along an interior wall would be an issue?
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Posted 12/28/2011 4:34:13 PM


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I think you'd be okay. 55g are generally okay unless you have a really, really weak flooring system, and the 75g is just deeper, not higher, than a 55g. I wouldn't put it on say, a third floor above the foundation without some checking of beams and such, but if it's on the second floor and up against a wall, I'd think you're okay. Take that with a pinch of salt though - I'm much more confident giving advice on the fish themselves than the mechanics of load-bearing structures....

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Posted 12/28/2011 6:33:50 PM


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The big difference between a 75 gal and 55 gal is about 200 lbs.

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Posted 12/29/2011 7:25:43 AM


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princessotfu (12/28/2011)
I'd think you're okay. Take that with a pinch of salt though - I'm much more confident giving advice on the fish themselves than the mechanics of load-bearing structures....


Me too, because every case will be different, (older home, newer home,2x6,2x8, engineered lumber, etc.) it is impossible to tell without an inspection of the flooring system.So here is the disclaimer this poster takes no responsibly for anything, but here the short answer as long as thr tank is sitting perpendicular to floor joist, is along a load bearing wall and not an abnormally large size(125 gallon or less) then your floor will be fine, keep in mind that flooring systems rarely fell catastrophically but must likely over along period of time.

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